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	<title>Comments on: Hill Watch: Hill Committed After Second Arrest</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2447</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Gomez Addams with the approval of Uncle Fester and Morticia helped Mr. Hill with Spanish Doubloons (32-reales gold coins) and seeing Mr. Hills worthy candidacy and campaign why not? 
He (Gomez) has helped other worthy people with political campaigns like Mr. Hilliard in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Gomez Addams with the approval of Uncle Fester and Morticia helped Mr. Hill with Spanish Doubloons (32-reales gold coins) and seeing Mr. Hills worthy candidacy and campaign why not?<br />
He (Gomez) has helped other worthy people with political campaigns like Mr. Hilliard in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: marumaruyopparai</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>marumaruyopparai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon, 

That&#039;s a lot of information, I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised if Hill were interested in what you had to say in your first paragraph.  As for his financial straights, I&#039;d like to know how he&#039;s doing on Magical Gold Coins, I bet he spent alot of that during his campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon, </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of information, I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised if Hill were interested in what you had to say in your first paragraph.  As for his financial straights, I&#8217;d like to know how he&#8217;s doing on Magical Gold Coins, I bet he spent alot of that during his campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Electric Elliot</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2271</link>
		<dc:creator>Electric Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jake, 10:4, our mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jake, 10:4, our mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Electric Elliot</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2270</link>
		<dc:creator>Electric Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crenshaw Sepulveda, You&#039;re right. Corrected, much thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crenshaw Sepulveda, You&#8217;re right. Corrected, much thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2266</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.What Mr. Hill should do is to seriously consider filing a civil lawsuit against the Pierce County Sheriffs Dept. for violating his Federal Privacy rights and possibly consider filing a complaint with internal affairs (PCSD) against Ed Troyer for broadcasting this embarrassing information.The time for filing a civil lawsuit is short with a limited number of years that one can do so without the statute of limitations expiring (not sure but it might only be 3 years).So he should contact an attorney A.S.A.P. once he is released.BTW I am not an attorney but this is what I think that he should do.

2.If Mr. Hill is involuntarily committed to a mental institution once released  and found to have a mental disability that limits his gainful employment, he could or should apply for GAU (General Assistance Unemployable (To apply for MONEY)) at a local Washington State DSHS (Department of Social and Health Services) office (It&#039;s the same place as when one applies for food stamps).If he gets GAU and later on GAX (General Assistance Extended) he will be able to apply for Social Security Disability and if found to have a disability that makes him unemployable he might receive an award in which he gets Social Security Disability payments as long as the individual remains disabled.Individuals can get disability awards for many reasons (Paralysis,Blindness,Bad Backs,Insanity,Retardation,Missing Limbs,Gross genetic deformation etc.).He might not want to go this route especially if he has large financial means but it is available.
Considering how bad the economy is going lately with numerous people being layed off of work and small businesses,huge corporations and financial institutions being shut down left and right getting a Gov. Gravy Train Social Security check might not be such a bad idea right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.What Mr. Hill should do is to seriously consider filing a civil lawsuit against the Pierce County Sheriffs Dept. for violating his Federal Privacy rights and possibly consider filing a complaint with internal affairs (PCSD) against Ed Troyer for broadcasting this embarrassing information.The time for filing a civil lawsuit is short with a limited number of years that one can do so without the statute of limitations expiring (not sure but it might only be 3 years).So he should contact an attorney A.S.A.P. once he is released.BTW I am not an attorney but this is what I think that he should do.</p>
<p>2.If Mr. Hill is involuntarily committed to a mental institution once released  and found to have a mental disability that limits his gainful employment, he could or should apply for GAU (General Assistance Unemployable (To apply for MONEY)) at a local Washington State DSHS (Department of Social and Health Services) office (It&#8217;s the same place as when one applies for food stamps).If he gets GAU and later on GAX (General Assistance Extended) he will be able to apply for Social Security Disability and if found to have a disability that makes him unemployable he might receive an award in which he gets Social Security Disability payments as long as the individual remains disabled.Individuals can get disability awards for many reasons (Paralysis,Blindness,Bad Backs,Insanity,Retardation,Missing Limbs,Gross genetic deformation etc.).He might not want to go this route especially if he has large financial means but it is available.<br />
Considering how bad the economy is going lately with numerous people being layed off of work and small businesses,huge corporations and financial institutions being shut down left and right getting a Gov. Gravy Train Social Security check might not be such a bad idea right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Crenshaw Sepulveda</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2260</link>
		<dc:creator>Crenshaw Sepulveda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused, the article claims this happened in Olympia.  I am unaware of a county-city building in Olympia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused, the article claims this happened in Olympia.  I am unaware of a county-city building in Olympia.</p>
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		<title>By: RR Anderson</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2254</link>
		<dc:creator>RR Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new KIRO &#039;traveller backstory&#039; video clip... 

http://www.kirotv.com/news/18034556/detail.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new KIRO &#8216;traveller backstory&#8217; video clip&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kirotv.com/news/18034556/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kirotv.com/news/18034556/detail.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: RR Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what happens when you&#039;re committed?  Are they going to put him on meds or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what happens when you&#8217;re committed?  Are they going to put him on meds or something?</p>
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		<title>By: RR Anderson</title>
		<link>http://themelononline.com/2008/11/hill-watch-hill-committed-after-second-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-2246</link>
		<dc:creator>RR Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there was an interesting comment left on the lights and sirens blog:


http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/crime/2008/11/21/the_traveller_involuntarily_committed_af


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Quote from KIRO TV&#039;s website &quot;Due to federal privacy laws, Puget Sound hospital and the Pierce county sheriff&#039;s department cannot comment, or confirm Hill&#039;s commitment.&quot;

Quote from your story
&quot;Hill was booked into Pierce County Jail on suspicion of possession of a weapon capable of causing harm. Deputies requested a mental health review of Hill before his release, sheriff&#039;s spokesman Ed Troyer said.

An outside agency conducted the review and determined should be involuntarily committed at Puget Sound Behavioral Health. He could be at the hospital until early next week, Troyer said.&quot;

It sounds like Ed Troyer broke Federal Privacy Laws and should be incarcerated himself.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was an interesting comment left on the lights and sirens blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/crime/2008/11/21/the_traveller_involuntarily_committed_af" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/crime/2008/11/21/the_traveller_involuntarily_committed_af</a></p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211;<br />
Quote from KIRO TV&#8217;s website &#8220;Due to federal privacy laws, Puget Sound hospital and the Pierce county sheriff&#8217;s department cannot comment, or confirm Hill&#8217;s commitment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quote from your story<br />
&#8220;Hill was booked into Pierce County Jail on suspicion of possession of a weapon capable of causing harm. Deputies requested a mental health review of Hill before his release, sheriff&#8217;s spokesman Ed Troyer said.</p>
<p>An outside agency conducted the review and determined should be involuntarily committed at Puget Sound Behavioral Health. He could be at the hospital until early next week, Troyer said.&#8221;</p>
<p>It sounds like Ed Troyer broke Federal Privacy Laws and should be incarcerated himself.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - </p>
<p>end quote</p>
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		<title>By: Glynnis Kirchmeier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynnis Kirchmeier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Given that Robert Hill has personally annoyed many among all branches of local government and law enforcement for years now, to what extent is his involuntary check-in to the hospital reflective of his actual danger to himself/others, and to what extent is it law enforcement officials getting rid of him for their own convenience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: Given that Robert Hill has personally annoyed many among all branches of local government and law enforcement for years now, to what extent is his involuntary check-in to the hospital reflective of his actual danger to himself/others, and to what extent is it law enforcement officials getting rid of him for their own convenience?</p>
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