Why gay marriage shouldn’t even be an argument

by Johnny Boulevard

3017254509_3cdd1941a5So a couple of people I know have criticized Obama for supporting gay civil unions but not gay marriage. Here’s the thing about this gay marriage debate that I think most people are missing. Marriage is a religious institution (not a purely religious institution, but more on that later), which has two significant consequences. First, it legitimizes all those passages from scripture people keep quoting.  I’m not saying I agree with this, I’m just saying given the circumstances, a religious institution is freely allowed to use their scripture as their authority. Second, because marriage is a religious institution and we have a (alleged) separation of church and state, the federal government should not have any say in the matter.

 

If you doubt that marriage is a religious institution just take a look at who officiates the vast majority of marriages: priests, rabbis, Grand Wizards or whatever the Scientologists call their figures of religious authority. (edit: my friend is telling me that Grand Wizards are from the KKK, I would change it but I think it’s a legitimately humorous mistake. Additionally, I apparently talk out loud a lot when I type, so my apologies to those who were near me when I wrote that ZA WARUDO article, which despite it’s ridiculous name is actually a very serious and lengthy article that NONE OF YOU HAVE COMMENTED ON. Dicks.).


As I said earlier, marriage is not a purely religious institution, there are special privileges and benefits conferred upon a married couple by the federal government, such as hospital visitation rights and tax breaks. This all happens upon conferral of a federal marriage license, and can actually happen independent of any religious officials (a friend of mine received a civil marriage officiated by a Justice of the Peace). Since there is an aspect of marriage that is from the government, we have a variety of anti-discrimination laws that say you cannot discriminate based on gender or sexual orientation. Because of all this, it is our explicit duty to provide equal rights to all people, which includes offering gay civil marriages, and a difference in nomenclature (i.e. gay civil unions instead of gay marriage) is understandable because it serves to show the absence of church involvement. That being said, I think the church should get with the times and just chill the fuck out (read: offer gay marriage you close-minded jackasses).

 

There is an additional scientific development that makes it very interesting that gay marriage is not allowed. We live in a somewhat gender-ambiguous society, and I mean that in the sense that we have sex change operations available and transgendered persons in our country. With the existence of these things we run into a great many philosophical questions that make the absence of gay marriage rights seem kind of ridiculous. I defy any religious person to answer these conundrums, and I’m being completely serious, I will be waiting.

First conundrum, a man and woman get married, this happens very frequently. Now, after a few years of marriage, one of them decides they want a sex change operation and their partner consents, this happens less frequently. After the operation you will have either two men married, or two women married. Should the marriage be annulled? Of course not, it was legal before, they’re both still the same people, if you want to say ‘well the one who changed is still genetically of the opposite gender,’ then what about in the reverse direction? By your logic there, a man who has a sex change operation and became a woman should be allowed to marry a woman, even though genitally speaking they are the same gender. There’s also male pseudo-hermaphrodism, where things go haywire during gestation and a male is produced who looks like a girl, has boobs like a girl, has a vagina like a girl, and internally instead of a womb and ovaries like a girl, has un-descended testicles like a pre-pubescent boy. The only way in which you can avoid this person’s marriage appearing to be some sort of gay marriage, is to not let them marry anyone in the first place (there is no female pseudo-hermaphrodism) which I think we can all agree is wildly unfair.

 

Second conundrum, what about a man with a vagina or a woman with a penis. If a man with a vagina marries a woman with a vagina, is that gay marriage or not? If you say it is gay marriage (and not allowed) going by genitals on this issue, then you’re saying a man with a vagina can’t marry woman with a vagina, but then it should follow that a man with a vagina can marry a man a penis, and you’ve just endorsed gay marriage. If you go by genetics on this issue, then a woman with a vagina should be able to marry a male pseudo-hermaphrodite because genetically they’re man and woman even though genitally they’re vagina and vagina. An additional problem with defining marriage by genetics is that it would then, in theory, exclude anyone with Down’s Syndrome, Patau Syndrome, Edward’s Syndrome, or any number of additional chromosomal disorder (having either one extra or one fewer chromosome than normal) from marrying anyone who does not have the same chromosomal disorder. And if you say marriage should only be between a genetic male with a penis and a genetic female with a vagina, you are taking away the right to marry from a number of people naturally do not fit the mold you’re used to (and in an appeal to the religious opposition, if God didn’t want gay marriage to exist, why would we have male psuedo-hermaphrodism and intergendered?).

 

As you can see this can quickly become an absurdly complex law to enforce, and it becomes basically impossible to not be unfairly discriminating against at least one group of people. If you want to ban gay marriage, you’ve first got to define it rigorously or else (as I’ve conundrummed above) there will be a very large number of unfairly… I’m going to say “disenfranchised” even though I’m aware it is in no way the correct word. The correct word is to disenfranchised as marriage is to voting. Yeah, didn’t think you’d have to solve any more analogies after you took the SAT, did you?

 

And if your response is to say they are not human because they do not follow God’s intelligent design, I will have one of two responses. If you’re a guy, I’m going to punch you in the balls as hard as I possibly can so you can really experience just how intelligent that design was. If you’re a girl I’m going to point out to you that when you were a baby in diapers your feces regularly entered your vagina, which poses a significant health risk as well as being really, really gross.

 

In light of all this (well not so much this, I’m pretty sure President Obama doesn’t read my writings, although I really hope he does), our current President picked out a stance on this issue that provides as much equal rights as possible without overstepping the authority of the federal government. So lay off.


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8 Responses to “Why gay marriage shouldn’t even be an argument”

  1. Cecilia Cecilia Says:

    “…so you can really experience just how intelligent that design was” – you’re a fucking genius. I didn’t realize how funny that paragraph was until I read it out loud to the people around me, then I couldn’t get through it because I was laughing so hard.

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  2. beetle beetle Says:

    “Because of all this, it is our explicit duty to provide equal rights to all people, which includes offering gay civil marriages, and a difference in nomenclature (i.e. gay civil unions instead of gay marriage) is understandable because it serves to show the absence of church involvement.”

    If civil union is the word for marriage without church, then male-female couples who were married by a justice of the peace should have their marriage licenses turned into civil-union licenses, along with whatever abridgment of their rights that entails…. I think a marriage license issued by the state should just be a marriage license no matter who it is marrying, gay or straight. If they want to get married in a church too, that’s fine, but it shouldn’t mean anything to the state without also a marriage license provided by the govt. I just don’t understand why the government license should go by a different name based on the sexuality of the couple… really folks it’s not that hard to understand. A legal partnership is totally and completely separate from some union in the eyes of god.

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    Johnny Boulevard

    Johnny Boulevard Reply:

    @beetle,
    I understand what you’re saying, and I may have been a little unclear in some of the writing. I believe there should be no difference even in what the marriages are called, be they federal or religious, gay or straight. I was just saying that I understand WHY they want the difference titles for gay marriage, it’s to specify the church’s uninvolvement/disapproval (side note: I do believe they are called “civil unions” when a man and woman are married by a Justice of the Peace). Additionally, adding “gay” to the beginning of the title is (I hope) just a temporary measure to specify whether we are talking about marriage/civil unions as the established institutions, or gay marriage/civil unions as the institutions that are (somehow) up for debate.

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  3. Trent Trent Says:

    Yeah i understand what you’re saying. Just it doesn’t seem to me that the “very large number of unfairly” born, for some reason you didn’t finish that sentence sorry just noticed when going back to quote, are excluded but if so GOD never promises a right to get married. Though what I’m about to say isn’t entirely relevant I think it’s worth while to say, the scriptures actually make rules that exclude certain peoples, such only apply to adulterers and people whom have broken certain rules of marriage or otherwise are victims of such broken rules not actually people whom are “conundrums”(Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.).

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  4. andy andy Says:

    gay people have the same rights as straight people. A gay man can go out and marry a woman just like a straight man can. A gay man can’t (in most states) go out and marry a another man just like a straight man can’t. Gay marriage is immoral.

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    summar

    summar Reply:

    @andy, you dont make sense,

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  5. summar summar Says:

    woww, i love love love this. you are a genius! i am writing a paper about gay rights and MY GOD, i learned about half of the info about gay marriges froms this. YOU ARE AMAXING (:

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  6. Matthew Matthew Says:

    This is kick ass. I my self am bi but this gave me alot of information about gay marriage and a few laughs. Keep up the good work. Also I think that Obama is stupid for having differing views on gay marriages and gay couples. Blessed Be.

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